BWW Interviews: THE BACHELOR's AshLee Tells All
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by Caryn Robbins
On last week's episode of ABC's THE BACHELOR, AshLee Frazier, a personal organizer from Houston gave Sean the lowdown on the 'real' Tierra. When Tierra found out, the two women had one of the most-heated arguments in "Bachelor" history.
While Tierra was sent home for being a drama queen, AshLee will move on to next week's hometown dates. She has already shared that she is madly in love with Sean, but how will her adoptive parents feel about the romance? On next week's episode, the emotional connection between Ashlee and her father is so powerful, Sean wonders if he ever will be able to gain the man's trust. Will AshLee get a rose to take her to the finale in Thailand or will she be sent home for good?
Frazier recently spoke to reporters about her experience with Tierra, her relationship with the other Girls and her May/December romance with Sean.
So this week's episode was full of fireworks between you and resident drama queen Tierra. Did you really feel like it was possible that you could go home for speaking up?
One hundred percent, I was scared. I thought this might be the time I go home... I felt safe until the argument happened. And really, almost until Sean came in to the rose ceremony and said that he didn't want anybody with these dramatic spells in his life. And I thought, you know, I'm part of that. And it's just - it's such a high intense moment, I got scared.
And I thought, I'm not even going to get a chance to talk to him? I'm not going to get a chance to explain my side of this? Because there was no cocktail party. That's when I got nervous and scared.
One of the things Tierra yelled at you was, "I can get engaged to any guy I want" And lo and behold, this week it turns out she announced that she is engaged already. Were you surprised by the news?
I did hear about that, but to be honest with you, I don't know anything. You know how rumors are. And, no, if she is, then I wish her all the best. But I don't really know any details on that.
If it's true, would you be surprised that she got engaged so fast?
If it is true, no. I mean, it's Tierra. I wouldn't be surprised.
During the argument with Tierra, were you surprised that the other Girls didn't step in and give you more support, considering they had very similar grievances?
You know, in the moment, to be honest with you, no. That's not what was going through my mind, whether they were going to jump in or not. I'm a pretty strong person, and felt I could just hold my own. I didn't really need them to step in.
But the thing is I had a fairly decent relationship with her in the house, versus some of the other girls. And I personally felt I had a leg to stand on against her. "You were my friend. Why are you doing this? I've tried to help you out."
And so, you know, it didn't really faze me one way or another that they didn't step in. Of course, who wouldn't like it? But it wasn't a problem that they didn't.
During Monday night's episode, you opened up to Sean about how you had gotten married once before at a young age as a type of rebellious act. Could you talk a little bit more about your marital status, specifically how it ended? Did you get a divorce, or an annulment?
Yes. It was actually a divorce. The details really are pretty simple. I was young, just making a bad decision in my life. You know, we - I guess we all go through things, and maybe I just didn't handle it the best way I should have.
It wasn't a bad breakup at all. It was just kind of like, "Oops. What did I do?" I woke up and I was, like, "Oh, man, I think I made a bad decision." We discussed it, and I think we both came to the conclusion that we had just made a bad decision.
Were you surprised to see Catherine crying at the end of this week's episode because she felt Lesley was a much better match for Sean than she was? It seemed like she really lacked self-confidence
The two girls, Catherine and Lesley, were fairly good friends on the show. And I think she was really sad to see her friend go. I think that was part of it. I don't see it as lack of confidence, though. I think she was just really sad. And, you know, it's hard. Those rose ceremonies are hard. I mean, you see somebody that you're close to leave. You know, sometimes, depending on how close you are, you may question whether you're right.
Is Tierra as bad as she seems. Is she really that dramatic or is it an editing job?
Well, I can definitely tell you it's not editing. She's very dramatic...We all tried to get along with her. At one point or another, I would say if not all, the majority of the Girls individually reached out to try to build a relationship with her. And, I mean, it just didn't really work well in her favor. You know, you reach out to her and she didn't want any part of it. So.
Why do you think you mesh so well with Sean?
I would say because we come from the same background. We have very similar strong family upbringing and I felt at the end of the day that that - this solid foundation that would have Built a perfect relationship.
What qualities does he have that will make him a great husband?
Again, you know, he's very family oriented. I know he wants children. For me, it was the fact that he wants to adopt, and his sister, as well. And so that was a big factor that played well for my heart to hear.
What did you and the others do on your free time?
We did a lot of the typical girly things, hair, makeup. Just talked about family, our lives back home. A lot, a lot of Apples to Apples. (Inaudible) we did a lot of Apples to Apples games.
How hard was it hearing about other girls' dates, hearing about their feelings for Sean? Was it hard not to get jealous?
Personally speaking, I didn't have a Hard Time with it, because at the end of the day, I knew the type of foundation that I shared with Sean. And I wasn't fazed one time. Granted, minus last week because of the drama, but other than that, I never felt my relationship with him wavered. And I was very confident.
Can you make the case for each of the final women? Yourself, Catherine, Desiree, and Lindsay, and why Sean might pick each one?
Well, Lindsay is very fun. I mean, she's always cracking jokes. Desiree has a very - sense of stability. Catherine just seems to have a big heart. So those would be my descriptives. And myself? I think with Sean and I it was just about building a relationship on a strong foundation.
What was your reaction, when Tierra pointed out that you're 32 and not married, and that she hopes when she is that age, she will be.
I didn't know until I actually saw the show. I laughed. Because, I mean, what are you going to do? I'm 32. I've never thought about my age so much in my life, considering the episode.
So, I mean, I really can't - what am I going to do? Go back in time and not be 32? So, I mean, I can't think twice about it. It doesn't bother me.
Throughout the season,some viewers have been saying they think you might be a little too intense for Sean. I just want to get your reaction and thoughts on that.
Well, when it came to my relationship with Sean, I did take that a little bit more serious, because this is my future. This is marriage, and that's not something I want to tread into lightly. But for the most part, I'm not really sure where that comes from. I had a blast. I joked, I laughed. Danielle was there. I mean - I mean, Danielle (inaudible). I mean, we all had such a blast, and we played games, and - surely joked all the time. So I'm not really sure where she gets that from.
What made you decide to wait so long to tell Sean about your first marriage? Did he have more follow-up questions for you that just didn't get shown on the air.
That's a very good question. I think - obviously I wasn't going to tell him on our very first date. That just didn't seem appropriate for me. Because I want to know somebody before I divulge my story to them. So I wanted to make sure I was feeling everything correctly and the vibe was there. And then every other time in between, it was either a group date or the rose ceremony, and that just wasn't the appropriate time to actually say, "OK, I have something serious to talk to you about." And so that's why I waited until that date to talk to him.
I feel like he asked a few more questions. He was as great as the show shows. He was so genuine and loving to me, and made me feel like a huge weight had lifted off and, you know, made me feel like it's OK.
Do you think that everyone who is left at this point in the show is capable or ready for marriage?
You know, I really don't know, because I really just can vouch for myself. I mean, if they say they are, I want to take it for face value and say, "Of course, you are." I would hope anybody that would come on to the show would be ready.
But honestly, I can only speak for myself, and say 100 percent, you know, I was completely ready to give my heart to somebody and fall in love.
For the longest time, Sean seemed to really be into Tierra. Did you ever wonder, "Wait a second. If he likes her and her antics, then how can he really be into me?"
That's a good question. You know, I kind of just felt like I had to put my own mind set on one thing. And that was my relationship with Sean.
And I could not sit in that house and wonder, "Oooh. Why is he keeping Tierra? Why is he . . ." - you can't think like that. You have to really compartmentalize your feelings and your mind set into focusing on what is really going to happen at the end of all this.
And I knew Sean was smart. He'd eventually realize, at one point or another, somehow, I knew he'd come to and realize it. So, it wasn't something during that time I allowed myself to focus on.
AshLee, going back to the comments that Catherine had at the end of Monday night's episode, when she was very tearful, you said she was very close friends with Lesley, and that's probably where those comments came from. But since she was worried that Lesley had more in common with Sean than herself, do you think that's a sign she might not be the right girl?
Oh, no. I mean, I couldn't say that. You know, honestly, I don't know her relationship with Sean. We all kept our relationships with him private. But I would definitely not say - I would say it was about, for the most part, her friend was leaving the house.
Why did you originally apply for The Bachelor? Did you know, going into the show that it was going to be Sean?
I had a friend that nominated me. And the very following week I heard from casting. So, it wasn't too long after that when I did find out it was Sean. And that's when I really started to allow myself to, kind of, crush on this guy and, you know, look into, like - "Hmm, OK, what's this guy about?" And ask questions about who he is. And so, yeah, I knew it was Sean going into it.
Don't miss the next episode of The Bachelor airing MONDAY, FEBRUARY 18 (8:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network. Back in the U.S. after a whirlwind trip from Los Angeles to Montana to Canada to St. Croix, the stakes are high as Sean crisscrosses the country on an exciting, emotionally charged journey to visit the final four women's hometowns. AshLee and Sean enjoy an emotional afternoon with her family in Houston.
The Bachelor isn't received with open arms by all of Catherine's family in Seattle. Lindsay's intimidating father meets Sean on his turf - Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri, where he is a two-star general. And when Sean hits Los Angeles, he is blindsided by Desiree's ex-boyfriend. The rollercoaster ride ends when he must make a gut-wrenching decision to narrow the field to three women - one of whom he believes will be his wife.